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Old 09-02-2011, 12:35 PM   #61
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Has anyone tried tunneling over IP ?
Doing so makes the flow completely transparent and untraceable.
Your ISP can still trace you, but not anyone else.
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Old 09-02-2011, 01:16 PM   #62
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What are the risks of connecting to card servers? How easily can it be detected? if i removed the C line could they still prove i was connected? does CCCam encrypt the packets so they do not look like card information? and What could happen if caught?

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I think you mean the legal responsibility, I think they don't have the authority to check receivers at home.
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Old 09-02-2011, 01:30 PM   #63
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I think you mean the legal responsibility, I think they don't have the authority to check receivers at home.
They can, but they would need a court order to enter you home.
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Old 09-02-2011, 01:37 PM   #64
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Because I'm not familiar with it, I wanna ask you:
Is it in UK cheaper to have a cableTV (like sky, or whatever) or to have CS?
Also, which is more reliable, and cost-effective?
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I think you mean the legal responsibility, I think they don't have the authority to check receivers at home.
No they do not have the right to check receivers in peoples hiomes nor couold they afford to and nor can they monitor who is sharing and who is not.

That is why they spend so much time and money on counter measures instead.

They fight a battle that they cannont and never will win.

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They can, but they would need a court order to enter you home.
...and such a court order never has been nor ever will be issued. For why see above.
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No they do not have the right to check receivers in peoples hiomes nor couold they afford to and nor can they monitor who is sharing and who is not.

That is why they spend so much time and money on counter measures instead.

They fight a battle that they cannont and never will win.



...and such a court order never has been nor ever will be issued. For why see above.

Just to add to your highlighted text yes they can and they are doing as we speak, If you take Sly UK broadband for instance they are monitoring random IP's for emm's being sent across the network. They cannot prove anything but they can certainly ban you and your address from ever having Sly again legitimately.

You only have to look at BT here in the UK they have already been ordered by the courts to stop all P2P Torrent traffic on there broadband system and its already in force and its working.

It wont be long before other ISP's are forced into the same corner and then eventually C/S will be next.
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I doubt that they can monitor IP packets for EMM.
The amount of packets is so hudge, that it is a pain in the ass to monitor this.
But if they really want to catch up guys, they will first focus on servers where you can easily find users list.
THere is an ongoing story in france of a guy who never did P2P and whose WIFII was hacked for surch purpose.
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You only have to look at BT here in the UK they have already been ordered by the courts to stop all P2P Torrent traffic on there broadband system and its already in force and its working.

It wont be long before other ISP's are forced into the same corner and then eventually C/S will be next.
But you can f*ck em up by using a vpn! Even your router can run with a proxy, so if there was a purge to capture clines all it will do is force users underground!
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Since you haven't seen this post, and I really wish to know the answer to this question please
to provide Sky UK then the card host has to be in the UK in order to pay bill etc , the server can be in any country, who know how many Card Servers there in the UK and normally server providers won't allow it, and anyway its safe to be outside the UK.
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yes I agree you right!
This could be valid for every Country in Europe.
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Is Holland the "safest" place to own a CS server?
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Is Holland the "safest" place to own a CS server?
Im using a card server thats in Malaysia, works great.
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its safe for your cardserver holder but not for you...you are resident in a country where the cs is not legal and this is the important things
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its safe for your cardserver holder but not for you...you are resident in a country where the cs is not legal and this is the important things
I think if the card server was operating here in UK (if found!) would definitely be prosecuted as they are illegally distributing media without consent, a bit like how a drug dealer is prosecuted here for intent to supply.

Meaning when the authority's prosecute a drug dealer they don't have to catch them selling drugs but they are found guilty on the amount of stock they hold.

Likewise I would assume a card server would be dealt with in a similar way on how many cards that are being shared over the internet, like the drug dealer the more lines they have and the amount they are receiving for each the greater the penalty!

People who are using Clines are of course guilty and breaking the law, but they are small fry, it's the distributer at the top of the tree the authority's want to take out!
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Edin40, probably you're right
for some reason I associate p2p file sharing with Holland.
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